Then people like me still get attacked for accepting they are 'sick' and might have to manage a condition for the rest of their life...I am not much into pills though the valium I have helps anxiety but I do not see what is so wrong about someone accepting they have a condition they may have to cope with/manage for the rest of life...that is the opinion I developed after realizing that focusing on 'recovering' or 'getting over it' was just putting too much pressure and stress on me causing me to bottle things up even more.....I have had mostly CBT talk therapy where they pretty much always encourgage recovering or full recovory as the final goal and it doesn't work for me.

I don't think i still have depression because I am 'doing it wrong' talk therapy hasn't helped, depression meds have not helped, moving to a busier area with bus transportation where i can get out of the house more and various things have not helped...I am not talking just swallowing a pill, but tried that to...doesn't work either. Try to live as healthy of a lifestyle as I can and that doesn't really get rid of the depression. Hence why that sort of assumptoin about doing it wrong or not trying hard enough can be offensive to people who have been trying, and trying and have finally accepted instead of having their head liable to explode at all times trying to 'recover' it might be better to manage and cope with symptoms, be proud if you make it through a day without it going to complete crap, one day at a time....rather than preassuring myself to constantly be positive or see things like I am looking through rose tinted glasses when its more like actually wearing doom tinted glasses and having all this self expectation to 'recover'/get over it I get through one day at a time.

I do not see having to cope with and manage depression rather than expecting to 'recover' as learned helplessness, I'd see learned helplessness is when I start to feeling like its impossible to cope with it or manage it in any way and buy into that which can happen when I am at my lowest however I am not always 'at my lowest'. The way I see it working on finding the best ways of managing and coping isn't giving up or 'continuing to look at things negatively' just a perspective that works better for me and some others better than the 'recovory' approach which works better for others but it really does depend on the person.

If that is doing it wrong or not trying hard enough wonderful, but its all I got...and as I say I am not dead yet so obviously I must be doing at least one thing right in life...but maybe that is just something i want to believe who knows.