If we agree that the higher forms of pleasure like love, caring, satisfaction from helping others, hope, being a father or son, etc. etc. are indeed forms of pleasure and even hedonistic, are you saying that someone who is experiencing depression is incapable of experiencing those things???

I can tell you it is not true from direct experience. Even when in the most severe depressions I am able to feel love for my daughter. I am capable of accepting the love, caring, and help of others with gratitude. Gratitude is a form of pleasure. I can find satisfaction in helping others. Even be content and at peace at the same time as being in a very suicidal depression.

Your thinking is rather black and white and life is an infinite number of shades of grey.

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