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Old Nov 01, 2014, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by amandalouise View Post
thanks for clarifying. your wonderings abot the USA and suicide talk....well here in the USA suicide talk is taken very seriously.most treatment providers unlike in your country do not believe if you talk about it you wont do it. here treatment providers have to work under the assumption that if someone says they feel or want to commit suicide they must assume the person is going to do so, then evaluate whether that person is just having thoughts about it, whether they have a plan in place to prevent it, a plan in place to do so, how close that person is to carrying out that plan.

The USA also has a problem with things like suicidal people going on rampages shooting up schools and other public places harming and killing others when they do so. usually the outcome has been the killer leaving behind information to the fact that they were suicidal and decided to take as many along with them. each time this kind of thing happens more and more stricter laws and ethics are put in place to help prevent this.

here in New York we have zero tolerance laws that were put in place back when 9/11 happened. We also have mental health laws and ethics that state it is illegal for someone to be a danger to their self and others. here where I work the standard is if someone is talking about suicide they must be hospitalized with a 72 hour involuntary hold for psychiatric evaluation, to evaluate whether it is "just talk" or more serious.
amandalouise good that it's taken serious there, hmm something like pictures in my head of myself stabbing with kitchen knife or feelings like something is pushing me to jump from balcony would be consider as serious threat when I don't really want it? I'm overthinking everything and don't see this little borders between ocd anxiety and sth serious :s
imo if guns were illegal in US there would be no mass killings at schools etc.. here if someone gets killed it's mostly cuz of addictions, accidents, or machete, which is cheaper to buy than pizza, but well, it's still rare. and only with guns it is possible to do mass killing in a few sec.. eh I don't get why guns are sold so easily and this kind of killing lunatics decide to take as many along with them mostly from random ppl, it would make a sense if they would kill someone who done sth to them..
72h hold should be here too, but for now or problem is ignored, or straight to mental hospital with tons of meds:s
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