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Originally Posted by zinco14532323
I wasn't making up answers. I have beliefs based on my experience but I can't tell you they are true. I am not one who believes that if it looks like there is no answer one shouldn't ponder the question.
I happen to believe that ordinary human perception is very limited. It's a filtered view of reality. It may serve us very well but that doesn't mean it's a total view.
Look at the phenomena of experimentally proven quantum physics. It has brought into serious question our classical physics view of reality.
Look at modern cosmology and string theory. Very bizarre ways of looking at reality but taken very seriously by physicist.
It's forcing an overlap between physics and philosophy.
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Not you in particular. Humans... tribes... cultures. You go into that further in a subsequent post so I'll take it up there. Maybe 
I share that belief in a way. I made a post along those lines recently.
I'm not so sure it really serves us all that well though.
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I understand the laws of thermodynamics. Equilibrium. Conservation of energy. The tendency of molecular reactions to always go to a lower energy state. The gradual decline into disorder.
When I die and my body decomposes, or the heat i produce may satisfy the laws of entropy but to me it doesn't explain the organizing, orderly, creative, processes of life. If you say it is randomness and chaos I don't buy it.
Entropy and life and cosmology are still being debated. A black hole, the ultimate in entropy, is still being debated. If energy escapes it then it goes against entropy.
The forces in the universe are well defined but there is no unified theory. Are they the only forces? What about dark energy? Maybe there are other undiscovered forces?
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To my understanding there can only be theories in science despite the fact that some are called laws. I believe scientists would agree. In fact I know they do. Everything will always be a theory for the simple fact that nothing can be tried over and over ad infinitum to make sure. Thats pretty much semantics though
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If you read Joseph Cambell on mythology he concludes that all cultures in all times have universal common myths. The stories are different but the common themes are the same. The creation myth is one example. He believes that these are universal truths innate in humans and passed on in story form. He was a huge fan of Carl Jung. You may think he is full of it but he was a serious researcher and philosopher.
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I've only read one Campbell book and that was fiction. Various mythology may have similarities. I'd be surprised if they didn't. I don't believe that has any significance as an indication that there was a creator if that's what you mean. I'm pretty sure I mentioned the innate need to explain how the world came to be. Every culture I'm aware of has creation mythology. That was my basic point in mentioning it. At this point the Abrahamic beliefs are still referred to as religion. I think that sometime in the future they will be thought of as mythology just as the older beliefs are now.
Back on topic... when we speak of an afterlife it always has a religious connection. It's hard to separate the two. I don't believe in any religion so I'm very skeptical of life after death. At least in terms of our mind/spirit continuing conscious thought and memories. The people who believe in reincarnation always have reasons that make sense to them to explain why we don't recall past lives just as the religious have reasons that make sense to them as to why there are so many contradictions in their religious texts and the fact that there is no evidence for any of their beliefs.
Very few people actually want to die, as in ceasing to exist as a conscious being. Most people need some type of crutch to get through life and a hope that there is a better world waiting for them when their death comes. For some simply the fear of "hell" or eternal damnation is enough to convince themselves they believe. I find it all very interesting but I'm long past the point where I could believe without visible proof. I don't normally bring up the subject though. To me, religion is fine... until believers try to spread their beliefs where it isn't welcome. People who believe have a tendency to get in your face about it. I'm not going to let that slide. On the other hand some are willing to have an intelligent discussion about religion. Theologians and students of theology for instance. I find true believers, the people who actually follow what's believed to be the teachings of Christ or whichever prophet, to be pretty tolerant and easy going. I hope we're understanding each other and I'm sorry if my thoughts aren't well ordered and focused. I seem to have a problem with that recently 
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Also I hope my color coded text makes sense too... it was the easiest way I could think of to answer all three posts... or the parts that I wanted to answer 
I enjoyed the dialogue. Thank you.