I fully understand what you mean JoBo about alternatives not being as good. I'm almost predicting that I'll do the ice thing, and then cut myself afterwards. That's the sort of irrational thing I would do. I've actually tried the elastic band flicking before but felt unsatisfied and then cut myself. Cutting is most definitely a safer form of self-harm for me. I have previously self-harmed by taking unprescribed overdoses of meds combined with alcohol as a means of inflicting harm onto myself, but not in a suicidal way. Either way, both are not great means of coping. I just hope I'm never in the position where I combine the two.