I know that a lot of people here care about growli, and that is why they respond to her threads, but berating somebody about what kind of treatment they should be getting really isn't going to help, and its only going to create shame. I think that growli already knows what kind of thing is likely to help her, and I really don't think there needs to be another thread on what everybody's opinion is on this. A lot of research shows that people tend to get better when they make the choice to do it on there own. growli should have opportunity to make he own choice and do things at her own speed. Going to therapy is a really big step, and it doesn't help to just push somebody into it. I'm certain that growli will go when she is ready, and more to the point she did not ask for help with that in this thread. Pushing somebody to do something they are not ready for could just end up mirroring the abusive environment that they grew up in. I think that its important the PC stay a supportive place for everyone, and that people offer support when for.