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Old Nov 14, 2014, 10:14 PM
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The statements he makes are on his own website and in his books. That is the source. I didn't really say his statements were false, I said I disagree with him. I do think some of his statements are false if you want me to say it. For one "there is no biological/ genetic basis for mental illness". I think that is false. A belief I disagree with is that we should just get rid of all psyche meds. The video and article you point to has no sources or studies listed. If you want to scare every one out of taking them than point them to him. I suggested you point them to Harvard or NIMH who do outline the dangers. Who do you think did the study on long term use of AAP's and brain shrinkage but NIMH. Or at least they funded it I believe.

If someone comes to the psyche med section and asks about a drug I may share my experience with it if I have taken it but I point out that we all metabolize them differently and experience varies widely. Actually I rarely look at those threads because I think it's a useless question asking what I can expect from a med because it varies so much.

If you read all my posts in reply to people you won't see me pushing meds. If someone is already taking them or wants to take them I may discuss it. It happens all the time on this site.

If someone comes here and says they are seriously depressed and has decided to take antidepressants, how in the world is it irresponsible to discuss the pros and cons? That's ridiculous. I would advise that the decision is totally theirs and it should be an educated one.

You just gave steph a thumbs up for saying that no one should advise someone to go off meds. That it should be a physicians decision.

I agree with that but I think the individual has that decision in tandem with their doctor. Their doctor may advise meds and they specifically say they don't want to take meds. Then I say it is their decision in the end. No one can force you to take them. If your doctor advises you to take them and you want to then educate yourself.
Speaking of science the only link I have seen you post is Dr Mark Hyman. Plus a couple like the two above that other people had posted. I answered your questions in the other thread. I pointed out his beliefs I disagree with. I don't like his tactics and his goal to get rid of psyche meds. I am entitled to that opinion. I agree with steph that it is irresponsible to scare some one off their meds.

I have praised Dr. Mark Hyman because the Cleveland Clinic hired him. From what I can tell he doesn't study depression or mental illness though. He is focused on nutrition. The clinical trials he is involved with at the Cleveland Clinic have nothing to do with mental illness.

You point out how he says the following things can cause depression but you provide no scientific evidence to back them up. I am not saying they don't but you post his statements and don't provide anything to back it up. I am sure they do cause it in some cases.

Quote:
1. Gluten -> Autoimmune disease thyroid
2. Acid reflux -> acid blockers -> vitamin B12 deficiency
3. Vitamin D deficiency
4. Took antibiotics -> Altered gut flora -> Changes the way peptides and neurotransmitters are produced
5. Love Sushi -> Mercury poisoning
6. Hate fish -> Omega 3 deficiency
7. Love sugar -> Prediabetes
I have addressed those issues and they don't cause my depression. I haven't been tested for heavy metals. I dunno how they even test for it if it is lodged in your brain. I have not taken antibiotics in many years but who hasn't taken them. It says "Took antibiotics" does that mean taking them years ago is causing depression now?

I have taken many supplements and vitamins.
L methylfolate, many people have a gene poly morphism that causes them to not be able to turn folate into l methylfolate and then into monoamines. Took it for six months with no help. Its expensive. To know for sure you need a gene test. Here is the science. One gene polymorphism causes folate to not be formed efficiently, another polymorphism causes folate to not be turned into L Methylfolate.
http://www.cnsspectrums.com/aspx/art...articleid=1267
SamE
L Tryptophan
St. Johns Wort
Fish oil
Vitamin D
Melatonin
Others
If I take something for six months and notice not difference at all then it seems not worth it. I still take fish oil, vitamin D, Melatonin, and B vitamins because they make sense to me for some reason, maybe because there is more evidence.
I drink Odwalla Super Food to partly get what I need. I like it and it is easy.
http://www.odwalla.com/products/smoo...inal-superfood

Someone above said they have addressed these issues and they were not the cause.

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