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Old Nov 24, 2014, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by coffee_lover_91 View Post
Sine theres a bit of confusion as to exactly what i mean about this,

Here's an example: a very close family member of mine told me in anger what a selfish person i am. even after the apology of "i am sorry i blew up on you" i continued to believe that from this person's perspective, i am truly the most selfish person they have met. And it must be true, if they said it. i think perhaps i percieve anger the way many people do drunkenness-- there is an adage that says there is truth in wine. it basically means that because of the lowered inhibitions, a person will say what they really feel after they have had a few. Anger, perhaps, seems to lower inhibitions, much the way alcohol does--it makes people less afraid of consequences.

And despite how many times i have been told that anger distorts perceptions and does not bring out the truth, angry insulting words seem to have more staying power.

my problem is that the apology, even though they are looking and sounding sincere, doesnt feel like the truth. Instead, the insulting comment, does. And even days later, sometimes i feel the sting of what an awful selfish person i am. And it doesnt matter to me that i always try to have the best intentions. Now, i am not a cynical person. i dont percieve lip service. i see the sincerity. Even when a completely different person, unrelated to the situation tells me something to the contrary, the comment about selfishness feels more true. It feels like truth because somehow, the things a person says when they are angry feel more true than anything uplifting that anyone says while happy.

I can smile, attempt to be helpful and apologize sincerely all i want. it still tends to bother me that the person ever said it at all.

thanks for all the replies. keep em coming
Hi coffee lover.

I looooove coffee myself, although I have decided to cut way down.

I also think I know what's going on with you because it used to happen to me constantly. Not everybody knows this, but very often when someone is depressed, they will also be hyper-hyper sensitive to criticism or praise. If someone says something insulting to you, it will "stick". It will come up in your mind again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...more again(s). It will happen compulsively. Did I get that right? Notice that this is almost exactly the same thing as "holding a grudge."

Now, the thing is, I believe you. I think that it is very likely that you are CORRECT in your perception of the insult and correct that the person continues to think that about you even after the apology. The insight that I only recently had about this is that the correctness of your perceptions is misdirecting you away from the true source of the problem. The true source of the problem is not the people who have insulted your or even the particular thoughts or feelings you have about it. The true underlying problem is that you are having thoughts and feelings in general in a compulsive manner without deciding to have those thoughts and feelings. The particular feelings, thoughts and the people involved are incidental.

This is all my opinion, but I really think I'm right about this and I really think I know what to do about it too. It's described here

http://forums.psychcentral.com/depre...n-escaped.html

- vital