IDK. I went to babble to see what bob had to say. I didn't go or do anything else there or anywhere, and my computer (desktop) bogged down considerably. I have McAfee with automatic updates, but ran Ad aware SE and it found similar junk as Sandyweb's. After removing it, I then defragged... it's ok now. (I'm on the notebook tonight though ) I choose not to go back to the site, even to change my password...unless that isn't wise. I know he doesn't close accounts usually?