Seemed to me like you guys were talking about unrelated aspects of the topic. One seeing the needs as being literally unfulfilled but maybe virtually or symbolically fulfilled and that being okay; then the other, i am reminded of my brother telling me that all of Gloria Steinem's work is false because her mother was ill and neglectful Yeah you didnt know i was related to a dinosaur, didja?! Which i think is what depletion is saying is b.s., but i couldnt see where she thought fkm was implying anything. I dont see how you inferred anything from fkm. It seemed like more of a old peoples / young peoples way of looking at things. Where old equals one, young equals many; like that.

Anyway this thoughtful thread is one of the reasons i looooove pc.