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Originally Posted by Rose76
So you aired out a bunch of stuff. At some point you've got to just do what you're going to do and don't try to explain it or justify. When push comes to shove, she may be a lot more adaptable than you expect, if she has no alternative. Meanwhile, she's not going to give an inch.
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It definitely feels better to have it out in the open, rather than keeping it inside, regardless of the results. And you're right, I can't let her give me an inch, and I suspect she probably will be more adaptable than she says. It's the fear she's instilled in me all my life, and she knows it. Not anymore.
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Originally Posted by Rose76
Let your mother keep anything in that apartment that she wants. You're a young man in his prime. You can start from scratch. Just get out of there as soon as you can.
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One thing I've started to realize, and this goes back to my very first post, being an only child, I was somewhat spoiled with material possessions, and have had the ability to purchase mostly anything I've wanted as an adult, and my Mom never had issue with that sort of thing. It feels like she's trying to keep me happy with "things" rather than with "someone." And I've fallen deeply into that; you have no idea how much I have. And for the first time in my life, I don't want it. In fact, I've begun selling stuff on eBay and online in the last several weeks. If my Mom wants me to pay her back for all of this
stuff, that's what I'll do. I even feel better purging like I am. If I need stuff, like you said Rose76, I can start over, I'm still young enough. A lot of people in the world have started over. I guess that's a big step that I must now face, as I've relied on my parents for so long; they were always there to bail me out. As much as I blame myself for it, I feel as if I've been conditioned with this behaviour as well. My Mom never told me to go out and fend for myself, or try to make my own way in the world, she's always been there to help, so-to-speak.
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Originally Posted by toolman65
Once she realizes that threats won't work, she will switch to bargaining , then pleading, then threats to self harm, etc. Be prepared.
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That's the one thing I don't want to happen, self harm. If she wants to make herself miserable, that's her prerogative. But if she starts doing something like that, I'm not sure what to do. I guess I'll just have to cross the bridge when and if it happens.
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Originally Posted by toolman65
The story you tell of her giving up her boyfriend to please her father i find very curious. I wouldn't be surprised if she carries a lot of resentment from that. In her mind, she probably thinks you should make the same concession.
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My Grandfather is crazy religious. He considers movies, television, all fiction in general the work of the Satan. When I stayed at my grandparents place when I was little, I got yelled at for watching Sesame Street and cartoons. And now the kind of work that I do, the entertainment industry, just pure sin. My Mom grew up with that, although she doesn't feel that way about my career choice, and watches movies and TV. And she's an only child, just like I am, so I think a lot of bad parenting from him has finally sunk into her head. And since my Dad passed away, she now keeps a bible next to her bed, and started watching religious shows. It's odd, because my Dad was an atheist, as am I. And it's funny, in our talk yesterday, she said she knows I'm a non-believer, and that she doesn't cram her religion down my throat. But yet here she is, telling me I need to be with a Virgin. Talk about hypocrisy.
I chatted online with my best friend today, and told him what happened. He to came from a heavily religious influenced home, but had three brothers. He's living with a girl, and his parents don't chastise him. He's known my Mom since we were children, and he's both surprised and yet isn't with my Mom. He's shocked that she would go as far as disowning me over virginity, but like everyone else has said, it's not her choice or any of her business, it's mine. It's her choice if she chooses to not speak to me ever again, but I really doubt she would. And besides, once I'm on my own, she'll never know what I'm doing.
Once again, thanks to everyone and their input. Just writing this stuff out really helps me get through this, and motivates me. I'm so glad that everyone can see what's happening, and that I haven't done anything wrong, with no reason to feel guilty for any of it. Like I said before, I'm disappointed and feel as if my entire childhood was a lie. Despite some things, I thought I had a fairly good childhood, no abuse, family vacations were great, etc. I guess I just have to remind myself that she's either changed, or because of me becoming an adult, can't handle the idea of me growing up, and I can keep those good childhood memories regardless of what's happening now.