I don't see it that way. First of all I decided along time ago it was my job to accept everyone exactly as they are and love them as they are and to forgive. It is not my place to judge anyone. Yes it is true I do not like the judgment of others and people trying to fix me. It drives me crazy.

I think with alcoholism, addiction, schizophrenia, and bi polar I, genetic predisposition will mean orders of magnitude higher chances of them developing it than people without it. I don't think someone without the alcoholism genes can become an alcoholic. Not a true one. That is all besides the point.

I learned an adopted and attitude in AA that has served me well. I took the words blame and fault totally out of the equation when it came to me and the people in my past. I chose to focus entirely on responsibility. It makes no difference at all how I got this way. I am the one responsible to do something about it. I have to own every thought, feeling, and action in my whole life and take responsibility for it. Going down the rabbit hole of causation doesn't serve me to well. Analysis Paralysis.

However I see nothing at all wrong in the bigger picture of taking an objective look at the reasons behind things. No matter what those reasons might be. An engineer has to thoroughly understand the problem before engineering a solution that works. Knowledge and understanding is power. More understanding leads to less judgment and less stigma. Knowledge and understanding leads to better treatments and better outcomes. Humans will always seek to better understand ourselves and the universe around us. No one will ever stop that.

This thread was meant to take an objective look at what evidence exists for one aspect of a very complex issues. Not to shirk responsibility or cast blame on one factor or another. I am totally responsible for my own self acceptance, self love, and non judgement. I am totally responsible for how I respond to the judgement and scorn of others. Don't we all deserve respect and acceptance? Can't we have self respect no matter what the causes are?

Some will argue that there is a huge difference between someone repeatedly sexually abused as a child who then later develops depression and uses self harm to cope and someone who commits pre meditated murder knowing full well what they are doing. Or someone selling drugs and committed armed robbery all the time. Which one is to blame and at fault? Which one deserves the respect and acceptance of others?