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Originally Posted by Adelyn
You do have some similar qualities as my husband does, but you're a bit the opposite in terms of your having tried and tried and tried to do exactly what your wife likes.
I do feel bad for my husband that he's "timid," as he says, when it comes to women. He's generally very Type A, but not so when it comes to women.
He gets humiliated incredibly easy. Over little inconsequential things that happen, like his accidentally going through a yellow light while driving. He doesn't have a big outward response, but he feels very embarrassed and immediately defends himself (even though I hadn't noticed or think anything of it) and blushes.
So if he thinks he'll not to a good enough job being oral with me, then that could easily be why he avoids it.
But it bothers me that he won't tell me this, or try to fix this with me.
I'm kind of the opposite of your wife with him having to be shaved or anything. I don't care if he hasn't showered, brushed his teeth, shaved, or whatever. I just want him to sometimes kiss me and go down on me. Doesn't have to be both. Doesn't have to be every time or every week. Does to have to be as much as I do to him at all. If he kissed me in his own--in bed or just around the house real quick, just a kiss--I would be so happy I don't think if be able to stop grinning. If he went down on me on his own, I would just be happy for the effort. I don't even care about the pleasure of it! I just want him to show some care for what I want, to express that he has affection for me.
It's not fair what your wife is doing. She can't expect you to act on your own initiative when she webs you up with rules and do's and don't's. It sounds like she's kind of using the high criteria for sex thing to push you away. She knows your sexual history, and knows her history and experience level, and she's making it seem like she has a Ph.D in the matter and you never made it past forth grade.
Well, I don't know... it could be a lot of underlying reasons as to why she's so picky like that. But I do think there's an underlying reason.
A lot of women want a certain amount of romance surrounding sex. Fair enough, but it can't happen like that all the time due to time constraints and other matters. For example, a lot of women want dinner and wine and for their husband to act like they're courting them. When women demand those things or say "otherwise, no sex" then sex happens infrequently. It's not fair to the guy to expect all that every time. It's supposed to be about both partners feeling happy and close, not one being of service to the other. I mean, think of the reverse: You say to your wife: "I really need you to shave the way I like, wear lingerie, and give me a massage, or else I won't be interested." Not fair.
By the way, maybe you're not aware of this because you haven't had a great deal of partners, but your wife's demands are excessive. It shouldn't take all that to make her happy with you in bed. Even if she loves things a certain way, she would compromise and understand it doesn't have to be every time.
But I know these things are easier to analyze then make happen.
I hear what you're saying about getting to a point of take it or leave it. I'm still hoping things will improve. I think I'm going to try just telling him what I want more frequently, and then hoping it becomes a habit. Then I guess I'll see what happens and go from there.
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I thank you for your feedback, and I know that the thread is about your situation, so I am doubly grateful for the time it took to respond. It's the first time I've heard someone (especially another woman) that has told me she expects too much. I personally have "romanced" her as you explained, with wine, dinner, movies, spa days, "home without the kids" days, and almost all of them end up with NO sex. I know I shouldn't expect it, but it would be a nice result.
I do truly believe that your husband is not trying or is selfish. It seems that he never has actually told you IF he has an issue performing oral sex on you, so why doesn't he? I mean my wife has never allowed me to cum in her mouth, ever...she'll suck me, but I always cum outside. I'm in a special situation where I've sucked guys before...and yes I do swallow, so I know what it feels and tastes like. I can appreciate that some people may not like it, so I don't push. But she does try, and she does make me orgasm. But your husband, it doesn't seem like he even tries.
I did note that you do have sex regularly, and that you do actually orgasm. From someone that has sex VERY irregualrly even with major efforts, and who can't always orgasm (another story...check my other posts), I am a bit jealous. It may not be what you want, but you have pretty much the 80% solution consistently. I don't think you should stop trying to get your husband to change or improve, and maybe you'll only get to 81 or 82%, but you have much more than many other couples.
Good luck.