I gotta say, this thread is very helpful to me. My mother is exactly the same, only i have broken away, kind of. I havent seen her in a few years, but she leaves a voice mail or snail mail every few months. This thread helps me see why i am staying away. I wish you wouldnt wait until its too late like i did, but youre a man, you can have kids even when youre old. So at least there is that.