<font color="#000088"> It was definately abuse and rape,thats the same way my brother got me,was by threatening to kill me.They will threaten you,because you are young and vulnerable,and they know that you will believe what they are saying,and they will get what they want.I am so sorry you had to go through that to.It's pretty scary huh? And you're grandfather,that was also abuse,and he was way out of line,my mother was also molested by her father to,that's why she told me he was dead before I was born,even though I met him alive and with alzheimers when I was 16.But I'm sorry you went through that with both your grandfather and those boys.It wasn't fair to you,and you must not have gotten any help for it,if you had to ask this,I'm so sorry.I've been there,so if you need to talk,I'm here! </font>