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Old Feb 28, 2015, 03:26 PM
Anonymous200265
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First of all I'm not native english so please don't judge me by my bad narrating skills. Unfortunately I could not find any decent local community where I could write to.

So without further ado my post is about seeking advice on how to give up on women and the reason for this I will try to explain further on.

All my life I've been raised to believe how not to give up when "going on a journey" fueled by the all known holliwoodian cliches on how "not to give up", "keep going" and all of that. I do understand that this is necessarily into infusing confidence to youngsters but after a certain age this no more is for encouragement but is simply delusional. I'm 27 years old and throughout my life I've had the privilege of being alongside some very smart people that guided and encouraged me throughout my school and college providing support in rough times. As with very hard work and sacrifice I've managed to finish my engineering studies with a rather good grade and get a job in what I always wanted. Throughout my study years I did not think or felt the need to socialize much and all I wanted was to become the best at what I did. As time progressed I realized more and more that what I was hoping for to become was simply not achievable with my body or rather mind. No matter how much time/work and how much help I would get it was simply for me impossible to master what I wanted as I saw some people around do without that much effort. So after some truly dedicated years I finally decided to lower the learning a bit because it clearly did not lead to where I was hoping to arrive. That's one of the things in life, you don't know a path is a dead end until you've reached there, especially when everyone teaches you to not believe discouragements, hence not giving up. So now, contempt with my slightly above mediocre academical achievements, with more time on my hands, I decided and also felt the need to get a girlfriend although this thought has been in my primal subconscious somewhere, hence my drive to regularly train my physical body for most of my life. So I've decided to pay more attention to signs received from the opposite sex for hooking up and having a relationship. What I found was then something even more frustrating then my previous disclosure with learning, which is the most baffling paradox I've ever discovered. Not only that if I tried hard I was getting slow results, I was getting the opposite, negative results. Apparently showing that you genuine like someone generates disgust, indignation and suprisement like it is some kind of alien thing to be doing. So after having bashed in my childish beliefs, I started "engineeringly" assessing the situation so I can improve upon. I started researching fashion trends and learn from people how to dress "appropriately" according to my style and environment. I began doing different diets and train much harder than before to get in the best shape of my life. I started watching, listening, taking notes and test best attraction, PUA, seduction training videos that fitted my style. So after applying all this for 6 months I realized that my rate of success was still super low (1/25) and this was not even getting laid but just kiss/dance and maybe have a phone number. So I've suddenly realized all of this insane work, waaay over the usual Joes, going though hell with all of these rejections and for what? Just to cripple my already shredded ego I had left from all my study failures ?
So I've finally decided to give up on women as being the most productive thing to do for my life. Also although my purpose is not to incite female flamers, but rather express my disgust to the way life is, I feel to say that you women are more cruel, self-important, disrespectful, honor less creatures than any man will ever be. Of course you might say in your low-pitch voice "but we are not all the same". Well I think that deep down you all are and if somewhere along your life someone put a bit of sense into you, that will eventually fade away with age.
So my humble request is, if some of you guys have some advice on how to wipe off this nature's sick implemented need in the man's head for women, please do share. I without doubt now believe is not worth the work put since not-even-close-to-even work is given back from the opposite, since women are not born that way. (interesting to find out about Briffault Law as a support on my reasoning)
Please share some techniques if some of you feel the same and experienced this. I've already deleted all my exaggerated porn clips from my PC and all female figures that could draw me into "wishful thinking" ever again. It's all meant to deceive like the donkey with the carrot on the stick in front of him. If the secret of getting women is to deceive, lie, "be witty" and practically hide your feelings than the pleasure you receive from after being successful, I found it to be directly proportional to the sacrifice, work and self-disgust of achieving this success, which yields 0 in the end, thereby resulting only in a loss of time.
Anyway thanks for reading this, I surely appreciate these kinds of forums and people behind it who have the patience listening to random strangers like me. Cheers!
I don't know what to say really, I don't know of any other way of giving up on the need for women other than removing the testes I guess, as I suppose they are providing the hormones driving the need. But, I love mine and I can't imagine doing that.

You say that you are quite smart, you worked out (I assume you have a great body) and you did/do work so you have reasonable money. Those are normally quite attractive qualities to women in general, so the only thing I can think of then, is that maybe you have some problem like mine.

You are an engineer (technical person) so you might have been suffering from autism or Asperger's or something like I do. It takes away all your natural social skills (that other men have) so that it becomes extremely hard to relate to other human beings. I have also not had a girlfriend my whole life and truth be told I don't know what to say to women even or even how to chat with them, and about what? Also I am fat and a student, so little money. They don't like that.

Women may not only go for rich guys and Hollywood looking guys, but they do expect any man to have a stable job and a good body I found. I have been fat my whole life. I've been addicted to sodas since I can remember, and anything with sugar in it. Also, even though I'm doing a PhD, I'm still just a student, with no stable job.

I'm sorry brother, I wish I didn't have to tell you this, but all women are basically materialistic to some degree. That's the only way to "measure" a person in general, as it is the most effective method. Usually, someone with a good job and a good body are seen as "normal" because it happens the most. I'm sure you know statistics, being an engineer, and it is just like the concept of a 95th percentile or a 75th percentile where most points fall in a range of accepted values/parameters.

The "norms" define our society (it's sad but true), and if you are an "outlier" you don't get chosen.

You have to make a giant leap of faith in your life if you're ever going to be happy with yourself. I know how miserable this makes a person, but you have to accept yourself, find out as much as you can about yourself, and then the hardest part - accept that there is nothing wrong with you! People (women) don't choose you because of their belief system. Same with me.

All we can do is do the things we do, like only we can do. I truly believe you are also a unique, gifted person, not normal like everyone else. People aren't going to understand you the first time. I did the same thing you did. I declared my deepest love for a girl I loved so very much, and she ignored me and rejected me. They just don't get it.

But, that is why I still dream to do something big, revolutionary, globally recognized. I don't do it for anyone else anymore either, I want to do it for me. And, I figure it like this - if a girl wants to join me on my voyage, she is more than welcome, if not - her loss.
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Alone & confused, Anonymous200145