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Originally Posted by Raindropvampire
To me selfishness is putting your needs and feelings ahead of the needs and feelings of others. So when you die someone has to pay for your funeral. Selfish. People that care about you will blame themselves. Selfish. Someone will be scarred for life by finding you. Selfish. If you set it up so a stranger finds you someone still has to ID you and live with that memory. Selfish.
Now ask me if I think being selfish is a bad thing  I think being selfish is a needed trait otherwise we'd never do anything for ourselves. It's why I believe it's one of the most selfish things a person can do but I don't think it's wrong.
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OK, then by your own definition, I would say living a depressed life, sad, unhappy and unfulfilled, depriving your loved ones and others of the happy version of you and replacing that with someone which is a shell of who you were and can be is selfish too. They have to live with that pain everyday to see you suffer that way. Do you think the people who care about you are happy when you are not? You are saying they are not worthy to see you at your best? That stings for them.
Now, I know you're saying to yourself, but I'm not being unhappy or depressed so as to hurt my family or loved ones or friends, I'm that way because I'm depressed, there's something unwell going on with me - well, exactly my point. You're not doing it to hurt them.
You can't keep thinking for other people. You just saw in my example above that you are thinking one way for yourself and they are interpreting it totally differently and make it about how they feel. Every human will do that. They can't know how you are feeling, all they can feel and experience is what they feel.
If you want them to stop thinking that way, then stop trying to think about what they are thinking. That is the only thing here that is selfish - trying to think what other people are thinking. You can't, and you'll never be able to, and it is true selfishness to think you can.
I also don't think suicide is wrong, it's just so unnecessary, because as difficult as all this turmoil is, don't be impressed by it, it is all show and no go at the end of the day. One gram of happiness will far outweigh several tons of depression, always will. Think of a dark room. Even one little hole in the ceiling casts light in it and it is no longer dark.
Also, by what you're saying then is that people who die normally (still a funeral, someone is still scarred finding you) and in car accidents (still have to ID the body, others are blamed, your family blames themselves and says "Oh, if only they didn't go to the store that day to go buy me something, they wouldn't have been in the car.") are also selfish.