really? i never came across it in the bible..do you know where i could find that? just out of curiosity i've never seen it myself.

yes hopefully it wont become a debate

i was interested in what you said about the Qur'an. im a curious person so i checked it out and i did find something (i didnt look very far im pretty tired right now, i grabbed the first thing i found)

"... cast not yourselves to perdition with your own hands, and do good (to others); surely God loves the doers of good."

i might have to double check the reference tomorrow but my eyes are telling me 2:195.. (chances are i misread that, the text is tiny) but its around there somewhere at least

ah yes the children of Abraham. Izaac apparently "lead" Judaism and Ishmail "lead" Islam.. i say "lead" because they didnt literally start them..oh u know what i mean right?

strangely enough im not a very religious person but its an area i have great interest in

and yes where has nosebleed gone? he'lll have to backtrack what everyones said.

take care i'll be off to bed soon