Thank you for the advice. Its hard to ask people what to do because each situation is specific to each person. I am looking for some magic answer, just don't know what that is. Its hard to try and just shed emotions for someone, especially when you feel that the positives were amazing and the negatives could be overcome easily. I still feel it could work out even better than before but I dont want to seem desperate. One other thing is that I have a ring and had already gotten the ok from her parents to ask her to marry me, I just hadnt done it yet, I was in my head about it. We had talked about our future and I still have this feeling that even though she was really upset, she still wants the same. I still feel that there is something there, just have to see if she will talk to me at some point, trying to figure out when though. My thoughts were about 30 days before contacting her. I thought that was a good amount of time after three and a half years of dating. I know that there is no set date and again each situation is different, but does anyone have a suggestions?