Jon1968, Hello and welcome to PC.

I am sorry that these groups seem futile. I have found that I have to attend a lot of times in order to meet people. I also have times when no one comes up to me but I have found that many people are very shy and it is best to walk up to them. It does take going to a meeting consistently in order to meet people. I would walk up to the women and start a conversation. Most of the time we have to be the assertive one. Try this approach before you give up. You may be very surprised. Check out this forum as well.

http://forums.psychcentral.com/relat...communication/

The site has some great features to include a community calendar with weekly announcements. It also has a resource center. It takes a little while for your first 5 posts to appear as they are being evaluated. Browse the numerous forums and *social groups (*need to join) and post when and where you feel comfortable. If you need any help in navigating this site feel free to contact a community liaison or moderator. I hope that you find all of the answers that you are wishing for.