Seeker, I totally understand where you're coming from. I thought about some other comments too. Not sure why I would be doing it exactly excpet for maybe I'm afraid I'm not where I should be or something. I know I'm always looking to have a good time, regardless how one gets to that end. One thing that I didnt understand was how having sex could be self harm; not saying I'm necessarily ntot engageing in that in such away but well... yea.