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Old Apr 12, 2015, 12:05 AM
Anonymous100165
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Originally Posted by vital View Post
Hi David,

I think you should see your MD or a therapist right away and don't do anything foolish in the mean time! You have a future where you can feel absolutely wonderful. Don't throw it away for nothing.

Here's my best advice

http://forums.psychcentral.com/4262681-post105.html

- vital


You are entitled to your opinion but people and opinions are not infallible. And there are all sorts of reasons for people to claim they have the cure, whether its prescriptions or plans like the one suggested above. PROFIT is a big motivator for good and bad. Investigate and find out for yourself whether the person making a claim has a good clean record or why he might or might not be approving of any given plan. I'm curious why your "about me" in your profile is blank.

You make several statements that I find presumptious and offensive. Here is one instance:

I suspect that in almost all cases of depression, a serious attempt at some combination of 1 and 2 above will greatly help or completely solve the problem, but that’s really only a guess on my part. Meditation is a good example of the need to try seriously, I think.

Your statement seems to suggest to me that I have just not made a serious attempt to deal with my problems. You don't know me, have never seen me, know nothing about what I've done and not done. As for meditation, someone in the grips of suicidal thinking or of overwhelming depression is not going to be able to simply meditate his/her way out of their problem. You can't just sit down and say "okay I'm going to meditate" PRESTO all better. You do admit, yourself, that your statement is "just a guess" yet here you are telling people you don't know how to fix their lives.

I have to ask myself a legitimate question: could your "that's just my opinion" statement be merely an attempt to protect yourself legally if a catastrophe occurs because of someone taking your advice instead of the advice of his physician/psychiatrist. Maybe you could cinvince the court that your "my opinion" statement precludes attachment of any of the funds in your bank account because of contributory negligence or other fault on your part.

Which is another reason to doubt your claim. The dichotomy you present - how can you so forcefully say "here's the answer" and then a few words away say "I'm just guessing"?

For myself, I will say that I have been helped by medication for suicide stress, anxiety attacks etc. Sometimes people need help sooner than can be had possibly thru alternatives. I know some of the RX can take several weeks to begin to make a difference, I've experienced that. But there are two that I can think of that I noticed an improvement within 2 days, even a difference the very first day. I am not optimistic about my survival should something happen where i could no longer get my medications and the thought, albeit fleeting, comes to me when I'm needing a refill WHAT IF i can't get them this time.

I have become naturally suspicious of just about everything I hear and read, thru experience I have found this necessary. And while you may be onto something, i think its dangerous to undermine someone's opinion or choice to take medication suggesting that they are being mislead or cheated by charletains. Some people are very suggestible and may not be able to weigh the evidence themselves and are ready to grab at any chance however remote.

There are side effects to the medication I take, one being that because of dry mouth I have had a lot more cavities than would be normal especially considering I am very conscientious about brushing my teeth. But the tradeoff for me, in an all too fallible world, is worth it.

I've had people tell me empirically YOU DON'T NEED DRUGS, I have never even taken an aspirin in my lifetime. My response would be "you're extremely fortunate for whatever reason - be grateful for it and not judgmental'. Not just about depression but migraines for example, Until I found something that would help with these debilitating headaches that made it difficult to move or tolerate any light at all, I could make no plans to do anything or see anyone because my life revolved around whether or not I got one of those terrible headaches. I have been and will always be eternally grateful for the years I did not have to suffer from migraines, they still come but can almost always be managed withing 30 minutes or so.

I urge people not to disregard prescriptions as a possible source of help - do your own investigation and make up your own mind please. Just because someone has supposedly been blessed thru good genes or other variable does not mean everyone is that way. not everyone gets cancer that doesn't mean cancer doesn't exist.

Keep an open mind - those of you trying to decide whether or not to try prescriptions. it's your life - take an active role in such an important decision. Decide for yourself.

Last edited by Anonymous100165; Apr 12, 2015 at 01:07 AM.
Thanks for this!
Billtrick, lonely-and-sad