Oh, I see, hmm, I suppose that could be the case I honestly don't know. They both can develop from childhood neglect, abuse, and abandonment.

It's actually very sad.

What really challenges me with both my sister and my husband that have expressed several of these traits and I don't really want to diagnose or label them is I don't really think they realize the are wrong to behave in these ways.

I like the way you put it RedEagle in that they developed these unhealthy ways out of their need for control and they don't really realize how unhealthy it is.

When I developed PTSD it was really bad for me, I really got so I felt it was just going to
be so horrible for me that I would do better to check out. The picture of the girl with the covered mouth, that is how I feel. They literally have said, "I dont want to hear it don't talk about it "just get over it" etc", with that cold stare too.

Well, I just saw the article and was compelled to post it with how it has happened to me. It's a brave move on my part tbh. Just wanted to see if others could relate.