Hey Ozze -- I see what you're getting at. I think that's a very easy piece of advice to make if you haven't yourself hit rock bottom. I've never suffered from severe clinical depression, but someone very close to me has (which is how I found this forum). I know that it's frustrating to see someone lay around and stay stuck in the depression rut, but I believe that from their perspective, in the deepest depths, it's no longer a self-indulgent "choice" as your abrupt man implies but rather a mental illness that needs professional treatment and support from others.