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Old May 07, 2015, 09:33 AM
tearsinabottle tearsinabottle is offline
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Eskielover, thank you for having taken the time to read my post and to reply.
I dont know if he had any other plan that didnt work out. I do think his mother wants him to get married as he is getting older. I do think his father also wanted that when he lived. My xhusband has told me his father wished him to get married, but to me it sounded like his father had said that after the divorce with me. But I believe his father wanted it for many years even before me and my xhusband met. My xhusband has been divorced before but their marriage never got consummated. My xhusband told me she cheated on him but it makes me wonder who did really cheat or if something else happened all together. If she cheated how come he lost the mahr ( bridal money ) he gave her. In this case I think he would have the right to get it back. It makes me wonder if she experienced his uncaring side, just like I did.

I dont think the abuse he inflicted on me had anything to do with religion because the things he said and did has nothing to do with being religious at all. His contradictory and odd statements is rather a sign of a disorder rather than being religious. I did have expectations that he would treat me as a wife after marriage. All that includes being husband and wife. He did opposite, at least after marriage. He was aloof and didnt even try meet my eyes. I remember one time I was looking at him to try make him make some eye contact, but he just gave me a blank stare for a second, he avoided meeting my eyes. He just sat there aware I was looking at him. I remember I thought is there something wrong with him. It was something I could not put my finger on, it was just bizarre.
I do think green card was what he wanted most of all. Now when he asked to remarry he said he wanted to make real with me and him, that he didnt want to remarry only thinking about himself and do it for himself ( because I was suspicious ), but do it for me and his mother too.

Getting a yes from a sheik is because I converted to Islam some years ago but didnt know they didnt believe in Jesus death and resurrection. I quickly went back to Christianity. My xhusband knows I left Islam and he needs to answer the sheik if I will say yes to go back to Islam. I dont want that. I guess he knows that the sheik will say no to him to remarry because my xhusband cant marry someone who has left Islam. But I will not go back to Islam. Maybe this will be enough for my xhusband to not be able to remarry.

You also had a plan and your xhusband agreed to everything but after marriage didnt follow up. I know this is how they manipulate and it is scary. I dont know if my plan is any good but I dont think my xhusband is going to be able to be intimate with me and love me. I truly dont think he is able to be close to a woman the way he should. He told me back then one day that its not normal to be close to a woman, did I think he is rubbish now. When I was down there in middle east he said "do you see how I am laying", while we should sleep down there. He lay half meter away from me like I was garbage. But the strange thing is that he didnt act like this before marriage. It makes me wonder if he hates women. One day I asked him if he was gay. He was shocked. I thought maybe its the madonna ***** complex that narcissists have. But all this, I dont think my xhusband is ever going to be able to meet my demands for closeness and intimacy and making love. Of course I cant know, but I doubt it. I will tell him I will just go home not looking back if he acts like a "no husband." Maybe this will scare him off wanting marriage. The hole in my plan is that he can, as you say, manipulate me because intimacy cant happen before marriage but I will tell him I will go home not looking back if he cant meet the normal duties of a husband. I have heard of those men who were out for green card only, that they had big problems being intimate and loving if they were not attracted to the women they married.

In july me and my friend with family will go to Crete. I booked before my exhusband asked me to remarry. I have not told him I will go. But I dont have to say anything now. It will be a nice holiday

Before my xhusband asked me to remarry I many times felt I wish I would be back with him. But now when he actually has asked and its a reality and I remember all he said and did, I feel like I know I dont want to remarry. I dont know. Maybe the meaning with all this is that I should find out this and then be free to move on emotionally from the trauma. Not having to wonder anymore. Not having any longing for what I didnt have with him back then.

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Originally Posted by eskielover View Post
Just wondering if all his other plans didn't work out either the way he wanted them to & maybe parents are pushing him to get married because he's getting older & not married & maybe no one else will agree to him marrying their daughter because he is divorced so maybe his parents feel that you are the only choice that's still left & since you married him before & were so devastated because of the divorce initially they think you will jump at the chance to marry him this time.

Remember, he might not be as abusive as it's the culture he's brought up in.....marriages are usually arranged & not for LOVE & many times the wife is looked at as property & not a partner wife, It sounds like you weren't very aware of the culture that you were marrying into either & definitely had different expectations than he did out of the marriage even if it had worked out. It does seem obvious that the green care thing was probably his highest priority to use you for.

Just beware because many times a guy who is good at manipulating will end up agreeing with you just to manipulate you into the marriage then afterward not end up going along with it after it's too late for you to JUST SAY NO. I know that my situation wasn't as serious as yours but I had a whole list of things that I threw at my fiance before we got married & told him that if there was any problem with any of them, I didn't want to get married because of the red flags that I saw with him. He agreed with me on everything. When I finally left him 33 years later, I asked him why he had agreed with me when in reality, he hadn't agreed with any of the things I sat out as being my demands in the marriage. He said that he didn't believe that I really meant what I said so he went ahead & agreed with me on everything ......what an idiot!!!!! Guess he wanted to get married a lot more than I did. Those red flag issues I had with him caused me to NEVER respect him & honestly I never did love him....I just hadn't realized it until I was able to look back at the marriage after I finally left....I could see all the bad things so much more clearly just as you are doing.

Just be careful if it does end up agreeing to your plan that it's an honest agreement & that he's not just manipulating you in order to get you to do what he wants.

I am a little surprised that a sheik would agree to him marrying someone who is born again & of a different religion unless they figure they will be able to bring you over to his religion especially if you are living in HIS country....that could be a very dangerous situation for you not only mentally but physically......be ware & be careful.