Yeah you are right petulant. We are trying that approach with her now. It isnt working at all, but I havent given up. She has never had an ounce of empathy ever, so i dont imagine she will now.

I really truly think this is APD, or at least something very similar. If it is, doesnt sound too promising.

I came to the realization 2 yrs ago that no amount of me loving and trying to help her works.

Part of the reason she is freaking out so bad right now is she is backed against a wall and for once there is noone there to clean it up for her. I honestly dont think she knows what to do. And if she does, she has no idea how to do it.

She is going to be forced to get some kind of help now or lose her son, and probably this baby when it is born. But what then? She might play the game for a while, but then what? Is there any hope if it is APD? She cannot get a job or go to school because she absolutely cannot function in society. She has had a couple of jobs that lasted 1 day. She has a problem with authority and she thinks everyone is out to get her. She wont even talk to any of the other wives on base because she says they are all b-ches and think they are better than her.

I remember taking her to a movie and she asked the girl taking tickets what the F. she was looking at and if she didnt stop she would pound her face in. It is like that anywhere she goes. Even the checkout at a grocery store. Seems to get worse if they have to ask her anything, like to see her ID..and she has to engage them. I hope that made sense!

To answer your question about drugs, no she isnt on them. I think she used to as a teen, but now she wont even take an aspirin.

Thanks for your help!

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To get started, tell her yeah, a lot of it isnt her fault, but the way she acts isnt working for her. Its got to be about her.Obviously I havent met her, but my guess is Its highly unlikely (but not impossible), that youre going to get her to feel empathy for anyone else, if this is antisocial personality disorder.

I youcan get her to ook at it from a standpoint of whats good for her things may get better. Also, I have a feeling drugs are involved. Am I wrong?

There's only some much you can do. I know you want to help, but I would worry more about the kid. Sometimes by helping someone too much youre not reallyhelping. If she has to suffer all the consequnces of her actions she may try to find another strategy..

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