Thanks wants2. I think more people are challenged by being a friend than we might think. We're trying to sort through it though. Sorry this is so short, I just don't feel comfortable sharing. In "public." Maybe one day I will overcome my "paranoia"... At least I can see it for what it is and don't always blame "them" whoever they may be. That's a road to freakin nowhere. Our abusers are in the past, for most of us. If not then I hope as rational competent adults, people find the strength to go away from the abuse and protect themselves if they aren't able to physically remove themselves completely. Like I have had to do many times, particularly from family. Sorry for the offtopic post. Not feeling great today. It sure isn't easy to do any of this.