I am with you on a love/hate relationship with them but my 'murderous' side seems to always win and they die off. I WANT them as I love the atmosphere they bring and the extra oxygen, but yep.... they remind me to much of my own neediness I guess... LOL>... I either OVER do them or UNDER do them and they die....... hmmmm, bet there is a something deep behind that for us.... LOL