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Originally Posted by Underground
Funny that you reference a psychopath. I guess it's sorta like playing with Fire, eventually you get burned. Same as playing with a narcissist, stick around long enough no matter with what tactic and they will have you defeated one way or another. Not condoning it just calling it as it is. I think that people here are becoming too relaxed in their thought process. I keep seeing how it seems so simple to pick certain personality types out from all areas of the spectrum. Sure we can spot certain types more easily than others but do you really believe it's that simple to know a person with NPD or ASPD?? These types will have you thinking something completely different then what is truly there. The charm, charismatic people they become are not so easily spotted whether your a pro or not. The truth is some people have a gift of giving others what they need because they are caring and giving then there's the ones who will give you the same just to bring you into a place where it's nearly impossible to leave. To say you can tell the difference from the two is definitely not true. At least not during the time of gaining trust, respect, love, admiration and so on. When one sets their mind to a goal with a disorder like myself it overwhelms me to make sure I get it done. I don't give in or give up I figure ways in becoming what's needed to gain the end result. I can be your best friend ever and at the same time I really couldn't care about you. Sick or not sometimes it's for fun, to prove a point or because you can do something for me. All these people that have been on "my" path may have been hurt or think I'm an #%sho$3 but their not looking for a diagnosis to understand me. So to say that a narcissist can be petted and tamed is like saying the same about a wild animal in the zoo. A zoo keeper is sooner or later getting mauled no matter how much experience they have.
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I was not diagnosing, just sharing what a psychopath said to me and he explained what he saw as the weakness, something I had not contemplated that way myself tbh. I had never expected to even have that kind of conversation either. A predator tends to instinctively look for weaknesses, they get pretty good at it, it's how they thrive.
Yes, you probably "do" get things done, but you still have your challenge, a certain internal suffering, that is what I think about helping a person "fix" somehow. If you get things done, you must be smart/gifted in some way, it's sad that you would suffer, and for you in particular, sad in how you arrived to be that way. You just did what you could to survive in spite of how you grew up. Sure, when someone wants to love you, they will pay the piper for the ones that should have long ago but didn't. As Humans, we adapt the best way we can, we are designed to be that way to thrive.
It just plain hurts too much to love, better off avoiding and detaching. I experience that but in a different way. The desire for detachment goes deep too, and there is definitely a "hurt" involved, better not push it because all one gets is a whole lotta anger.
"Some" narcissists are self aware, oh, I think they are all very self aware and are "the" most important. Narcissism runs on a spectrum, we have to have some narcissism "importance of self" to thrive. So, in that NPD is that of complete self aware/self absorbtion, they don't think about others, it's all about "them". Their children "do" suffer as the child "must" be a certain way to "please" them or the child is not good enough. The world revolves around "them". Yet, often this is where they got stuck developmentally if they were a child that grew up with poor nurturing.