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Originally Posted by BudFox
Seems like he is talking out of both sides of his mouth. I wonder about the timing of these quotes, and what is most recent. His incriminating comments seem more notable since it is far more risky to say those things. For the main author of DSM-IV to publicly say "there is no definition of a mental disorder. It's bulls**t. I mean, you just can't define it"… that seems very telling.
Anyway Allen is just one guy. There are so many others of note saying that psychiatry is mostly insane and corrupt and driven by drug company profiteering.
BTW, we are on a major tangent here...
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The quotes were nearly simultaneous- I posted one of the interviews so you can see the timing, indeed the quote I posted was basically *in response* to questions about his earlier quote. So no, the more negative quote is *not* the more recent.
I don't think it's a tangent- you said basically- so and so agrees with me, here's an expert who corroborates my opinion about psychiatry being awful- and so I'm showing that that's not correct. I think it's quite on point, the point of the title of this thread- that therapy does more harm than good, but dismissing facts and evidence to the contrary as invalid without any credible or substantiated defense.
I do see people are hurt by bad therapy, sometimes enough that they leave in worse mental health than when they started. And I've seen evidence of it. But I don't see that in the majority of cases is all.
I'm sorry for those who dealt with incompetent, unprofessional, hurtful, manipulative, or otherwise just... terrible therapists and pyschiatrists and bad meds.
I don't think this is a perfect science or all science or that it's harmless- where there's power to do good, is power to do harm.
But I do want to be fair about discussing it when we have a thread that isn't "I was abused in therapy" or "My bad therapy really hurt me" but "Therapy does more harm than good" in general.