WARNING:
Please forgive me for going off on an unrelated tangent on your thread, DePress, but I was skimming Pinksoil's post and all that really registered clearly were the first and last sentences. So, I concluded that Pinksoil said, "Thanks DePress, you gave me a good idea of what to do with my patients in group therapy this week -- I am going to kick the %#@&#! out of them!"
Of course, I then reread it more carefully, but that really gave me a chuckle.
OK, sorry to get off topic, but I just had to share that. Please resume your discussion without my bizarre interruptions . . .