The group went pretty well last night. We talked at length about how to help S (he always shows up very late). He is absolutely a hoarder, and is just having trouble taking care of himself, his house, car and dog.

The trouble I'm having is knowing just how much to hold him responsible for. He's affected enough that he doesn't even realize he's having a problem with his own life. He's been a hoarder for a long time, and now that his wife is hospitalized, all he focuses on is her.

Apparently, he's having problems just keeping his lawn mowed, and paying his garbage bill so they pick up his garbage.

We all agreed that he would probably be benefited by some counseling. And when he showed up, we talked to him about that possibility. I've noticed that he has an incredibly hard time staying on topic, and can ramble at length without dealing with the real issues.