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Old Aug 30, 2015, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by crosstobear View Post
In my experience, it's complicated. For instance, there's "after the fact" empathy, where sometime down the line after you calmed down you realize how you overreacted and start to understand and have empathy for the other person.

It's because usually before a blowup, you feel under attack and you experience immense pain and hypersensitivity- an amalgamation of all the pains of abandonment, rejection, belittlement, betrayal and rage and it's just overwhelming. The intensity and focus on the hurt prevent seeing things clearly and separating the present situation from all the past hurts. You are in so much pain you don't realize exactly what's going on, and the overwhelming and highly personalized response- the counterattack- is so out of proportion that it frightens and really hurts/traumatizes the other person. And it seems the only and automatic way to process that huge cluster**** of emotions that can't be identified but are about to burst out of your body. In that moment it's impossible to have empathy, because your senses, your cognitions, your emotions are all overwhelmed by this reopened wound and the outburst of traumatic ghosts that are trampling you. In these moments, your rage can make you seem like a monster. But it's a knee-jerk, almost reflexive protective mechanism. It's not instrumental or predatory like that of sociopaths. It comes from a real throbbing wound that has been there since childhood.

In other times, your sensitivity heightens your ability to read people's emotions and your desire for connection to people and experiences of pain actually help you have empathy. I don't know if I can say borderlines have more empathy than others. Everyone has their own empathy capacities and in many instances empathy can be learned with maturity, experience and therapy.

That's how I see it, and my self-awareness is the product of over a decade of therapy and ****ing up. Heh.


Thank you so much for your reply!! This really hit the nail on the head for me! I get so overwhelmed from all my pain and all the associated emotions and responses. I am trying to learn to act on them as opposed having completely reactionary responses. However, time and time again, I find myself having these knee-jerk reactions you just described and I feel so out of control! It's such a bizarre thing; I hate the pain I feel and just want to make it stop no matter the cost but then I usually AM a very empathetic person and I feel very deeply. At the same time, though, when I'm hurt, I both turn my negativity inward and strike out at others.... usually with venom.... and then, when the smoke finally clears I have many amends to make or I have completely destroyed yet another relationship.

I actually have both BPD and Bipolar Disorder which work against me intensifying my emotions as well as the unpredictability at which I feel them. I am on meds and have been in and out of therapy for years. I think I'm in the midst of a mixed episode right now, actually. I had an argument yesterday with my adult daughter and words were said, feelings were hurt, I ended up shutting myself off in the basement and locking the door. I just laid on the floor in the fetal position shaking, rocking, crying and screaming it out for awhile. I feel like a total *** now.....as I am the mother and supposedly an adult, but I can't handle my emotions. I guess this is one reason why I love my heavy metal music. It helps me scream my angst out. Hehe....
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