I used to fool around with Chris occasionally. I tried to keep this to a minimum for various reasons. After her mother died in 2008 it seemed to tail off. It seems perhaps that for me, when the woman is partially the initiator I find it easier, although I am not always looking for that; it's just that as I said if I don't have any sexual contact of any kind for say 6 months, it can happen that I may get stress headaches. I think Chris is also sensitive because one time a few years ago when she wanted to fool around and I wasn't interested she took it as rejection and since then has not shown much interest. She is a super nice person but just doesn't seem to be naturally sensual I guess.

Annette tends to be more aggressive in that way and I guess she has a certain touch but certainly that type of thing is not everything by any means.