Thanks for all the replies. I appreciate it and I'm forced to agree with the overall assessment. I will need to quit for a while and then visit the doctor and take it from there.

I feel I should mention I am not a young person using this as an excuse. I have been on and off it for literally decades. Nevertheless, I agree, there's no way my family doctor is going to have time to listen to decades of history when he can justifiably just insist that I quit.

It's going to be difficult, but it appears to be necessary. The problem is going to be, how severe will the symptoms get before I've been off it long enough to be sure I'm clean?

I don't think I will try any more pills for Bipolar, however. I am willing to deal with the consequences of that rather than the effects of any more pills.

On the other hand, regarding ADHD, I have no specific idea in mind for meds. I know there are at least 1 or 2 that are not stimulants. That's fine with me. Whatever works.*


*I'm pursuing that inquiry in the ADHD forum already.