Okay that all makes good sense thank you. I suppose I was just doubting it because surely if her kid parts were coming out crying for mama her husband should of known something was up... But I never thought of what you said- it's after she reached a point where her system no longer works that triggered the breakdown 'a few years back' and now everyone is popping out. But.... Can you really 'call up' alters? Do you reach a point in treatment that that becomes a possibility? I know my kid parts pop out but I didn't think I could be like- 'okay little Ocean, it's go time...'