hello Ryan, i think that many people argue a point from an "indefenceable" position. it's kind of like being a hypocrite. they rail against others for doing in essence the same stuff that they themselves do.my good ol' ma told me once that to point out the rudeness of other people is the height of rudeness (except with your children) lol, so,i guess that sort of speaks to "what is lost" to name it,your kindness.