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Originally Posted by HairlessMop
Little background on me first:
49yo male
married 23yrs to the same beautiful woman, currently separated, BUT working on it
25yr military vet (so, I'm SURE the deployments didn't help my situation)
just found out that I'm probably NPD with sociopathic tendencies (I have not been diagnosed yet, but I'm also not stupid)
also clinically depressed (now on meds) <-- yeah me (NOTE sarcasm)
My wife found out last year when our marriage counselor told her and gave her some books to read, but told her not to tell me. And to this day our marriage counselor still has said nothing to me. @sshat. My wife decided to tell me when she asked for a separation and thought that I should get help.
So, after seeking help and talking to a therapist it was determined, by both of us, that I was indeed NPD and clinically depressed. She may or may not be the "right" therapist for me, but only time will tell.
I have begun the journey (research) into what NPD really is and eff me if it's not ALL depressing, "leave them", "no hope", "give up", "walk away".... *****. AND it all seems to be from the "victims" side.
Oh, and Underground is my new idol. LOL Seriously though the fact that you have been married for 20yrs and self aware for the past few years AND are still together gives me hope. I also understand it's probably a daily struggle but what worth it isn't?
What I need or would like is some input from the NPD who are self aware AND wanting to work on themselves and for lack of a better word "fix" themselves. I know there really is no true "fix", but whatever.
Also, any books that will help ME the NPD, NOT the "victims" side. I found a book list about NPD, but it it based more on the "victim"s side.
ps. I put victim in quotes because are we not also victims? however probably defined differently (since there is no hope for us)
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First I will start off with be careful with what you read. There are too many misleading things out there especially when the one with "a disorder" is seeking help. For instance as I wrote "screw the victims" and responses included why we are what we are (In a victims mind).
For many many years I always new something was off but because our ways are so second nature it really never clicked or could be explained. That was until I found NPD then explanations were no longer needed as it fit me to a T. My experience with therapists were not good so far. My best interactions were found in places like this as I found people who were so close in their ways to my own that it was crazy. Does help when someone can relate, especially when you are trying to "fix" actually "modify" yourself. The other person who can really help you is your wife. I found that when I could really open myself and say the crazy things that my mind thinks that my wife never looked at me like I was nuts (like a therapist) but she really understood (as crazy as that may be). I have other things I think of that probably don't have much to do with NPD but crazy all the same. You need to be able to talk to her in a way of trying to be as real as you can. With this she can see better and understand more and more than likely help too. People like us are so accustom to relating to a situation which we understand benefits are inner and outer self. You need to show some light in who, why and what you are. As difficult as it may be, there is a reason why you have what you have. My wife understands me, get's my ways and see's why and what they are. Nobody else can do that in my real life.
Fact is that we were turned into something we never asked for. Our roles as pawns in childhood created our world and yet we mostly here from only the "victims" and how people like us should only be ran from. How can we do what we do? Why are we so cold? How can one not have empathy and so on? The victims you mostly read of are ones who have had MULTIPLE Ns in their lives. What does this tell you..... It tells me that these "victims" search for these types and then when they are hurt they bash and then go find another. Just remember we did not wake up one day and said "today I feel like having NPD". This is what was left for us for many reasons of the same. Don't fall into the BS of victims and what we are because these people hurt and believe because of that we deserve nothing. Well nothing is what we had as children and this is why we are who we are!!! So again, I will repeat one more time "Screw the victims" we are in our safe place. This forum is designed for "us" and people like us. If "victims" like to respond please see the 40,000 other sites just for the "victims" of Narcissists.
So to end of here you can find a better place for yourself. You can get through what your going through and make things right with your family. It's all up to you to do so. Be careful though, many times we believe what we want is really what we can get in a "N" way. It will only be up to you to figure that out. So many years of manipulating our own minds has caused these type of imperfections. Know that there are a few good people here who can help you in these times.
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