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Old Sep 12, 2015, 10:37 PM
lonely-and-sad lonely-and-sad is offline
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I believe he is or was director of the Nordic Cochrane Centre. I quoted directly from the Cochrane systematic review itself! which I remind you is what this thread is about. I would be happy to email you a copy of the 77 pages.

You shouldn't take my opinions over his. You should look at the evidence yourself. You talk about publication bias and yet that somehow only applies to drug companies. Even if the studies are biased then that would be what Gotzsche is basing his opinion on.

His views on psychotropic medications are contrary to the following sample of organisations: World Health Organisation, the American Medical Association, the Black Dog Institute, National Institute of Mental Health, Royal College of Physicians, His views are opposed in the following journals just as a small sample: American Journal of Epidemiology, the Lancet, The BMJ, American Journal of Public Health, American Journal of Psychiatry and on and on... Out of interest have you have ever had depression? Views like those of Gotzsche only get the attention of poplar media such as mad in America. You are asking us to believe one man (Gotzsche) and one organisation (madi in America)against all of what I posted above? Or has everyone been bought off by big pharma?

Whitaker is easy to criticise, he got is so wrong its actually funny. His books are not a piece of academic work. I doubt members are impressed with your constant posts advising suicidal people to snap their fingers to get out of it. Your posts about snap club now where would we find that? Maybe Google scholar or PubMed? You are entitled to your opinion but I wonder how impressed members are.

Of course what they say makes sense. That's what pop media does they have to sell their message. Could you imagine if they told the boring story that all the journals above write? It would obviously not sell. I have absolutely nothing to do gain by posting the official position of the vast bulk of research and just about every official medical association on the planet. There really isn't any point in me continuing you made up your mind long ago.

The pharmaceutical companies stopped investing in research on more antidepressants and even other psychotropic medications quite a while ago. Despite some scaremongering medications such as SSRI's are actually pretty safe when compared with other pharmaceuticals. I know all about the shortcomings of anti depressants and antipsychotic medications. But lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Let's hope that there is more scientific discoveries so we can get something better than the psychotropic medications we currently have.