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The second one has said "you can do X" or "I think is is okay to do x" a few times - And my response is always "I am not asking you for permission - I just want to talk about it".
I do not find it useful at all.
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Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.
Oscar Wilde
Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
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