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Old Sep 24, 2015, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysChanging2 View Post
ANP and EP are types of alters described in the theory of structural dissociation. The number of each created from the kind of trauma determines the condition. Like primary s.d. Has 1ANP/1EP (PTSD), secondary s.d. has 1ANP/2<EP (OSDD), tertiary s.d. has 2<ANP/2<EP (DID).

The only way as described that a person can have 2 or more ANP states is that dissociation has to begin with the initial trauma in the baby years...

Distinct state would be the ANP. Indistinct state would be the EP.

I know the DSM5 doesn't mention ANP/EP....but uses "....two or more distinct personality states..." instead.

As the studies dictate. I'm not a professional and don't mean to sound like one...I just naturally apply what I read about and to see how things fit.

The last thing I want to do is give false info, but a theory is a theory.
yes I understood what you meant my point was....in my location.....we dont have nor use those terms in reference to DID type alters. Im glad your location is using terms in which you can find a connection to.

here in my location distinct does not mean ANP and EP. here in my location the term distinct means any alter, of any kind, that is completely severed and does not share any part of their jobs, purposes, reasons for being created with each other and the person in which they reside....

example I did not have an alter that appeared to be normal and the alters that got me diagnosed with DID were not the emotional ones like rainy and red, sunny,the two distinct alters that got me diagnosed with DID were my self injuring alter and my sexualized alter. neither one of them appeared to be normal and neither one of them were emotionally charged. ones job was physical and the other was to be emotion less.

here where I am ANP is defined as any part of self that appears to be normal.

an example is a person with schizophrenia can have a part of their self that makes it possible for them to appear normal to others outside their self, perform exactly how and what is expected for normal functioning while the other part of their self can be having hallucinations, delusions, and other typical schizophrenic symptoms.

another example of ANP in my location is someone who has no mental disorder, they are having a conversation with a friend and suddenly they feel bored and dont want to offend their friend so they split their focus mentally they are noticing something other than the conversation say that plant on the table, while another part of their focus is on the conversation appearing to be normal and not bored. children do this oh so well. another term for this type of example is selective attention, which any normal non dissociative disordered person can do, another term for this in my location is multi tasking.

here in my location EP is defined as any part of self that is reactive and emotional. example someone with depression may one minute feel happy and the next react to something someone said with anger. someone with bipolar disorder can be ok one second and then next reacting emotionally. a person with menopause can one moment be fine and the next react emotionally to having hot flashes. a non disordered person can one moment be talking with their friends and the next a part of them reacts to something in the conversation with emotions.

my point of my posts was to show that in your location it may be a requirement for having an ANP and EP but most treatment providers no longer require an ANP and EP with in someones internal system of alters because most use the newer standards that distinct alters can be any alter not just an ANP and EP, and that there are many locations out there now that no longer use ANP and EP for the disordered level of having parts .

Again Im glad your location is using what terms \definitions works for you.