thank you pat....... i dont feel like i can talk to my boss right now, he just gave me that review & raise, plus i would feel like the ultimate tattler if i told him i overheard her....... i don't have a problem with her as a person, actually i like her, i just don't think she's right for the job and i think its wrong for him to pay her more. i'm assuming she doesnt know she makes more than me. and i actually like my job, and my coworkers. this just feels like a slap in the face and i'm tired of feeling worthless and no good, and people telling me no, you are valuable, then this crap happens and that all goes away, i;m just subpar again. i just cant see any way out of it right now except to quit, and i cant do that, i need the money. i don't know what i can do at this point. probably nothing, i'm just screwed like always. i hate this crap. i wish i had never found out she was making more because it wouldnt matter.