I think we're used to see ourselves in certain ways, like in a mirror you see sort of a flat you from the front and also you see yourself inverted. I really can't even think the thought that I'm actually not my mirror image to others, I'm inverted to that, it really fills me with dread.

Anyway, seeing ourselves from angles that we don't normally see ourselves can be really weird. Not many of us do know how we really look to others, not many get recorded in sort of an every day type of situation. Many would be surprised. Although I think you can get used to it. Many young people are used to seeing their bodies and hearing their voices from they were little, because they have watched recordings of themselves. Us older people, I mean I think I recorded my voice the first time when I was six, and no one but my brother had a tape player that I knew of. I only saw myself when I was over 20.

It's kind of weird that most people through the ages never knew what they looked like. Maybe catching a glimpse of their face in water. That must have been odd.

About being ugly, I think I'm ugly but I never really think about it, but I notice what I find ugly about me, others might find totally normal and some of the traits I really like about myself, others can find ugly. It's so weird. Anyway, I totally agree that it simply does not matter if you're ugly or not, getting told I'm pretty just feels wrong.

Yea and people really told me I am. Not from my culture, but Americans do. I guess that is something one does to be polite. I never told anyone back they are pretty because to me that is creepy, so they got mad at me for not reciprocating. Heh.

Anyway I did not find them pretty. I guess Americans simply all look ugly to me (sorry!!!).

But I kind of wanted to stress that even if there is some kind of cultural ideal, there are always people who thinks different.