I've always found this to be true of the narcissists I've known. My mother's husband for example is a very emotional creature, he is a classic "fragile" narcissist. I still wouldn't call him insecure but he has this sense of what looks like desperation to him to get the respect he feels entitled to. In sharp contrast to me, while I like being respected my mental well being does not depend on whether I get respect or not. And when I am working to gain someone's respect, it is a means to an end not the end itself. A narcissist wants respect, admiration, etc for the sake of having those things, it makes them emotionally feel good. For me, I'm indifferent if people see me as a saint or a devil, the only time it ever matters to me if it would be expedient to be seen as one or the other... If a situation calls for me looking like a saint then I cultivate that, and ditto for if I need to look like a devil(and the latter is most definitely easier for me to cultivate, lol.)



Certainly true of me. I've never felt fear a day in my life, I understand what fear is but it's all clinical.


This fellow sounds remarkably like myself, no surprises there. I am constantly watching people, analyzing them, finding out what makes them tick, and so on... You're right, I can fully admit that to me it's all a game.

Narcissists "play the game" too, but the internal motivations for said game is different for narcissists than it is for psychopaths...


People who actually appreciate me have told me that they have learned many things from interacting with me. I find that you being able to admit that you learned from this psychopathic fellow is again, refreshing to read.

How do you define evil? Like, how was this fellow evil in your eyes?

Yes, I have never lost a game with a narcissist. I trashed my mother's husband's reputation when I was a teenager, that along with several other assholes for family members, many of them were likely narcissists also looking back on it... and funnily enough to destroy my family's delusional construct didn't involve any lying on my part, just telling the truth. I still think that's quite funny considering psychopaths are notorious for lying all the time. Just because I can lie doesn't mean I always do, if there's no benefit to deception I'm actually honest to the point of shattering people's worlds.

I've made a bit of a pseudo-career in taking down narcissists, they are my favorites as far as "targets" go(I don't think there's any point in trying to make myself sound like I'm not a social predator here, because I am.) I get such a thrill out of challenging a narcissist to a game and winning it. The way I see it is that I'm not doing anything all that evil, narcissists play with people all the time but as people say if you push it too far you'll end up messing with the wrong person... That's what happens to narcissists when they try to play with me, I say "game on" and I've never lost. Because their egos are so inflated they assume that I couldn't possibly know how to play the game better than they do(I think that this is likely subconscious for most narcissists, with the exceptions being the malignant narcissists who are far more aware of exactly what they are doing like you mentioned in another post.)