Ok I suppose it's time for me to shed some light in here. People in this room tend to discuss what they observe narcissist to be. I also see that many speak of people they meet and diagnose them pretty quickly. Myself, I never take notice on what I think of others from a therapists stand point. Maybe I just don't care enough to do so, possibly because I gain nothing from it or whatever it may be. I just can't understand I suppose. I would also like to speak up in regards to the earlier part, how is it that so many who say they do not have npd seem to have all the answers to the ones that actually do. Let's be more realistic, a person like myself would never be diagnosed by ANY of you if we're to meet in person. You wouldn't be talking of me in the way you do others here as in the npds you have experience (so you say) with. Seriously speaking the levels or depths one may have depends on each and not just a title. Yes I have NPD but would never be spoken of as little you speak of here. I said something yesterday about liking to hear about others pain. Well that has to do with who I am and not a title. I also understand people to gain what's needed and not in a strong minded way such as a toddler getting their way. I guess what I'm getting at is be careful with your passing judgements because when you do meet one like me it could be so much more devastating then the small simple minded ways you express here. Let's stop with all the name calling too, you others here with your strange titles shouldn't even be talking. Oh I'm up today and down tomorrow, I hear voices and so on blah blah blah. NPD allows people to feel better than they ever have and with that brings the other side of the sword. We are the best because we can do things mentally and physically in a way that defines care, love and all emotions based on studies rather than what your supposed to feel inside. The wolves in sheep clothing. We strive to be best at what we do, whether it's fun, life or making others believe. The power is always mine and will continue to do so. Tell me I'm a hurting abandoned person and child like. Whatever I'm still better and will always be at seeing what I need to do to get what I want from you or anybody else. Keep crying as for me it's ok, I enjoy it. Not cause I'm sick but because I'm me!!! Simple minded people...... Take it how you like as I will not be going back to read through (Ask Atypical). Ha ha ha