You know, Todd, I've read that book and lot's of other books about relationships and ocmmunication. Many of these books -- and I would includes "Win Friends" in this category -- are somewhat superficial in their approach. I'm sorry if you disagree with this; I certainly respect your right to your own opinion, and it's absolutely great if this book helped you.

Sometimes the problems go deeper than active listening, being interested in the other person, and so forth. I make a generally good impression on people. I am talking about engagement at the deepest layers of our self and souls and who we are, when we want to have an authentic heart-to-heart relationship. Some of us who come from dysfunctional families carry the wounds deep within us. A book like "Win Friends" can help me *appear* to be like everyone else for the most part, but the deep wounds still need to be healed.

I apologize if you feel that I am rejecting your advice.