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Originally Posted by CaptainChaos79
I don't mean this in a mean way by any means but ...manipulative comes to mind...you are able to manipulate people via conversation and get the information you want...that is talent not an odd way of thinking
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Without a doubt - and I'll take it as a compliment (that you called it a talent). In fact, in my first book I teach people how to...well, some call it manipulate, but I argued that point. Lessee...
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This chapter will make some people uncomfortable. Ultimately what I am discussing here sounds like manipulation, and that word has a dirty ring to it. One definition of manipulate describes the word this way: "Getting people to do what you want without giving them something they value in return." Using this definition, it becomes more difficult to call this type of influence manipulation. The vast majority of the players you will meet at the poker table are coming to have a good time and be challenged.
If you ensure that your opponents' needs are being met, then you are giving them value. If your opponent is coming to your table for a good time, then show him a good time. If he is coming for a challenge, then challenge him. Give 'em hell - but also give them value.
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But I went and got long-winded. I'm not really debating whether or not I'm manipulating them to get the information I want. I can agree in principle that this is what I am doing. My issue is why it is needed. Most people know instinctively what the question means. I don't. That's the part I'm referring to as 'odd'.
My wife assures me that in my example question above, she knows they mean, "Were you the last person to speak to this girl" although she admits freely that the way they ask the question is logically ambiguous. She doesn't know why she understands the intent of questions like that with, let's say 99+% accuracy, and for me it is more 50%-50%.
That's the part I'm trying to understand.