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Old Dec 21, 2015, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CopperStar View Post
I think the main issue is that no matter what type of system you have (capitalism, communism, socialism, etc) it is the responsibility of each individual citizen to be vigilant against corruption in their leadership and system. Because any system is vulnerable to corruption, and any system will have terrible results once corruption is widespread in the government/leadership.

In theory, almost any system can produce wonderful results, if there is no corruption, and in my observations, almost everyone championing a particular system, from capitalism to communism, speaks of their ideology within the assumed context that there is no corruption. I get the impression that most people find the idea far too daunting, of having most people be vigilant, brave and caring more about their community as a whole than their own personal gain. And I would agree that that is indeed a pretty daunting and perhaps overly idealistic goal.

So anyway I get the impression that a lot of people turn to concepts and champion those system concepts, because it feels more hopeful and comfortable, the idea that, "If we just used this system, then everything would be fine."
That's the same conclusion I came to as well. Human corruption. There is no perfect system because there are no perfect humans. Sometimes I feel we put too much faith and power into those in power, when they cannot possibly live up to their words and beliefs. Humans are too complex. And I'm not faulting anyone here, because I'm the same way. Unstable, complicated, and complex. I think grassroots movements are a great counter to social problems, but they just don't have enough power or media coverage.

Thank you for this conversation though.
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