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Old Dec 23, 2015, 07:12 PM
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Since I'm checking in on this thread, and we've talked, I might as well reply to this.
Cool, cause I rather like you.

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I recall reading accounts of childhood giftedness on Quora and eventually breaking down in tears thinking what a useless failure I am by comparison.
Please feel the sincerity in what I'm about to say...

My three greatest accomplishments in life are far and away:

1. My wife loves me and believes I am the best man she's ever met.
2. My father loves and respects me.
3. My children love me and look up to me.

There is nothing else. I have everything worth having.

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I'm into personality stuff and I sometimes can't shake the impression that logical-minded, object-oriented people are more evolved than limbic, values-driven people, since any animal can feel but logic and reason are what separates humans from the rest of the animal kingdom (unless the counterarguments that it's actually things like consciousness and self-awareness that distinguishes us are valid, then there's just the issue of logical people being more useful/valuable). If that's true it seems like another strike against me, another reason to worry.
Please figure out a way I can get this book to you. It's in pre-publication, it's got a few more edits to go - but without knowing it, I wrote it for you.

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But yes, putting intelligence on a pedestal is something I've been doing for as long as I can remember. To think that intelligence isn't important is hard to get my head around. How isn't it important?
The most important thing in the world is love. Now that's my opinion, but it's shared with some pretty lofty, and dare I say, intelligent individuals.

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To reply to a few of your other points: this person prides herself on her bluntness and claims some other people love her for it too. Unless it damages their ego, presumably the reason she's hated in some circles. The spiritual enlightenment comes from some comments about how people create their own hell by wanting too much, and dismissal of things like insecurity.
She is an outcast; simultaneously hating people and being hated by them. There may be the odd duckling that 'loves her for her bluntness' but I'm quite certain she has nothing but contempt for them and keeps them around because they're all she has.

In your spiritual explorations thus far, I'll wager you've come to understand or at least believe that we are all connected in some way. She bristles at connection and pushes people away.

Here's a little excerpt:

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Consciousness is what gives you awareness, Josh. Consciousness is awareness. It is the divine spark inside us. It is your true nature. Our character's ego tells us that we are really the character and our mind believes it. This is delusion. Our ego is the great deceiver.”
Okay,” I said slowly, trying to follow all of this, “So if this divine spark is me; if my true nature is consciousness, then what is your true nature?”
Same as yours,” said Daniel. “All sentient beings have the divine spark of consciousness.”
Does consciousness have a personality?” I asked.
Perhaps, but not individually, no.”
My head was swimming, “You're making my brain bleed, Daniel.”
Well,” he said, with a grin in my direction, “at least it's nothing important.”
I tried to rally for one more go at it, “So if individual pieces of consciousness’s don't have a personality and my true nature is this divine spark of consciousness and your true nature is this divine spark of consciousness and everyone's true nature is a divine spark of consciousness...” I paused to take a breath, “then what you are saying is that we are all the same?”
Daniel took a second before answering, “That is exactly what I'm saying. Consider it from another perspective; traditional Native Americans believe that everyone has a spirit and they refer to their god as the Great Spirit.” I sat listening, curious as to where this was going. “Let's say we looked up at the sky and noticed a bunch of, let's say ten, small clouds. How many clouds would there be?”
That's a real question?” I asked after a moment's silence. Daniel nodded and I really thought this must be a trick question but I bit, “Ten?”
Outstanding!” Daniel exclaimed sarcastically, “After all that time thinking about it I wasn't sure you'd get it right.” He continued before I could object. “Now, what if the wind blows all those little clouds in such a way as they all come together? How many clouds would you have then?”
One,” I ventured.
Outstanding, again!” Daniel cried, “You are getting so much faster at answering these questions! So what you're saying is that the number of clouds is really dependent upon how many times it's been divided and that no matter how many times it's divided, it remains a cloud.”
Yeah,” I said a little cautiously because it seemed too obvious.
That is, in a nutshell, if you ignore the oversimplification, is what the traditional Native Americans understood that modern man has forgotten. Each of us has a part of the Great Spirit within us and together, we are the Great Spirit. But we aren't talking together like you and I and your mom and Sensei Li, we're talking our true natures coming together – the divine spark in you and in me and in your mom and in Sensei Li and every sentient being the world over.”