Thank you so much Raynaadi. Your encouraging words meant a lot to a guy who is always worrying if he said something to disastrous. Just before writing this to you, I double checked my post to tango because I had a nagging feeling I may have come off high-handed, and I know from my AA days that's not what recovery is about. I hope you also got something from my message, tango. If I can do it, so can you. Keep on trying. Don't give up on yourself, because you've already seen people here on this board who haven't given up on you. Another AA cliche' coming your way - Let us love you until you can love yourself.